As chairman of the chiefs of staff committee, Admiral Sunil Lanba's
purview is not confined to the waters. Recently, he was spotted on the
Arunachal Pradesh mountains, getting briefed by the Army on the
deterrence posture across the northern frontier.
And having
recently operationalised India's first nuclear-powered and nuclear-armed
submarine, Lanba is now looking forward to the Indian Navy getting a
follow-on boat to this submarine and also one more home-built aircraft
carrier. In an interview on the eve of the Navy Day, Lanba spoke to THE
WEEK on these and other issues concerning India's maritime posturing.
Excerpts:
The Indian Navy recently operationalised the nuclear submarine INS Arihant. What does it signify?
I
don't have anything more to say than what the prime minister said. We
have successfully completed the first deterrence patrol of INS Arihant
this year. With this, we have operationalised the third and the most
survivable segment of the country’s nuclear triad. And that is a quantum
jump in our deterrence capability.
China is beginning the
sea trials of its first home-built aircraft carrier. We have had a lead
of several decades over them in carrier operations and carrier
construction. Are we beginning to lose the edge that we had? Can you
update us on the status of India's Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC)?
Let
me assure you that as long as our capability induction plans fructify,
we will continue to have an advantage in carrier capability. Yes, it is
true that China is making rapid strides in their aircraft carrier
projects. As per the current reports, the PLA Navy aspires to have four
carriers by 2024. In the same time frame, we would have two operational
aircraft carriers. With synergy of efforts between the Indian Navy,
shipyard and industry, we have embarked on the ambitious project of
building and delivering an indigenous aircraft carrier, IAC-1.
When is IAC-1 going to be ready?
It
is being built at Kochi and has entered the trials phase. The hull has
been completed and the ship is in advanced stage of outfitting. Ship
construction has entered into the trial phase with commencement of
machinery trials from mid-2018. During the machinery trials, the
equipment, machinery and ship systems would be evaluated in harbour,
followed by sea trials. The sea trials are expected to commence by early
2020.
And the next aircraft carrier?
Capability
assessment for building IAC-2, a CATOBAR carrier of 65,000 tonnes, has
been undertaken. India can design and build it. The matter is under
deliberation at the ministry for accord of acceptance of necessity
(AoN).
Can you share your vision about our carrier force in the next 10 to 20 years?
The
Maritime Capability Perspective Plan envisages a force level of three
carriers to ensure that at least two carrier battle groups are available
for operations at any given time. With INS Vikramaditya already
inducted, the planned induction of IAC-1 in 2021 would ensure that we
have the minimum force levels required. Further, the case for IAC-2 is
being progressed to meet future requirements.
What is your vision about the Indian Navy's strategic role in the Indo-Pacific?
The
Indian Navy’s role in the Indo-Pacific is complementary to the national
idea of this region. Our prime minister has stated that India’s vision
for the Indo-Pacific is that “it stands for a free, open, inclusive
region, which embraces all in a common pursuit of progress and
prosperity”. Accordingly, the Navy works in close coordination with
friendly naval forces in the region to realise this goal.
But
do we have the capability to actually operate in the extended oceanic
perimeter from Malacca to Aden and the African coast? Aren't we biting
off more than what we can chew?
Look, our maritime footprint has
grown significantly in recent times. It spans the expanse of the
Indo-Pacific at present. As we further realise our maritime economic
potential through initiatives such as Project Sagarmala and the Blue
Economy, this trend is likely to intensify.
Also, we have adopted
the mantra of SAGAR or Security And Growth for All in the Region.
Accordingly, we work in close coordination with our maritime neighbours
to provide the assistance in terms of deployments as well as capability-
and capacity-enhancement initiatives. So, it is necessary for us to
maintain presence in the our areas of maritime interest. Since last
year, we have increased the deployment of mission-ready ships and
aircraft in critical sea lanes of communication and choke points in the
region.
We also undertake regular interactions with friendly
navies and maritime security forces to develop a high level of trust,
understanding and interoperability. This serves to enable efficient and
effective coordination of responses to any shared challenge to security.
I assure you the Indian Navy has the capability to undertake the
missions it has embraced. And, as our capability development plans
fructify, our ability to sustain and expand these deployments will also
increase.
India has recently signed logistics arrangements
with several countries. How are these arrangements going to help in the
Indian Navy’s operations? How far has it impacted the Indian Navy's
mission-based deployment?
To begin with, our mission-based
deployment philosophy involves deploying ships and aircraft in our areas
of maritime interest on a near-continuous basis. In order to sustain
operations at enhanced ranges, there is a requirement to provide
operational logistics support to ships and aircraft in their respective
areas of operations. Towards this, fuelling of Indian Navy ships by US
Navy tankers is being regularly undertaken in the Gulf of Aden. This has
reduced the number of operational turnarounds at ports, thereby
facilitating more operational time at sea while also reducing the
overall cost of deployment. In the near future, we would also undertake
such logistic exchanges—fuel exchange, stores, equipment repairs
etc—with other navies through inter-governmental agreements.
Submarines
was another area we had a march over most Asian navies. However, with
our submarine fleet getting depleted and replacements being delayed, how
long do you think we can maintain the lead? Can you give a timeline for
the Project-75 India submarine programme?
We have a strength of
15 submarines, which includes the nuclear-powered submarine INS Chakra
(SSN), the 1st Kalvari class Scorpene submarine, nine Sindhughosh class
submarines and four Shishumar class vessels. The second and third
Kalvari class submarines are undergoing sea trials. They are likely to
be commissioned by end-2019. Yes, there have been delays in procurement
of new-generation P-75(I) submarines, but we have maintained the force
levels through life extension of in-service platforms. Our current
submarine strength provides formidable combat potential.
What is the status of the P-75(I) project?
It
is being progressed under the strategic partnership model (SPM) as
promulgated by the government in the Defence Procurement Procedure,
2016. The expression of interest documents for shortlisting of strategic
partners and foreign manufacturers are likely to be issued by end of
this year, followed by the request for proposal (RFP) by mid-2019. We
will continue to retain significant underwater capability subject to our
acquisitions remaining on track.
Where have we reached on the procurement of deep submergence and rescue vessels?
The
first DSRV system was delivered to the Indian Navy in mid-this year,
and the second is scheduled for December. Both will attain initial
operational status next year, after completion of their sea-acceptance
checks. Full operational capability, post build-up of experience and
expertise on this complex system, is being targeted for early-2021. It
is not only a valuable Indian Navy capability but is also an important
national and regional asset. It provides the Indian Navy with the
ability to undertake submarine rescue up to a depth of 650m.
How
has 'Make in India' helped the Indian Navy? Can you tell us about some
of the specific Make-in-India programmes that are fructifying for the
Navy? And how are our own indigenous development programmes, such as the
LCA Navy, faring? We would like to have from you an overview of the
Navy-specific development and manufacturing scene.
The Indian
Navy has been at the forefront of the ‘Make in India’ campaign. The
Navy’s indigenous drive over the last few years has resulted in
achieving a substantial quantum of indigenisation. We have been
constantly interacting with the DRDO, the public sector undertakings and
private industry to promote and nurture the indigenisation drive. Over
the past 10 years, a number of important systems and equipment, spares
and sub-assemblies have been developed.
Any specific example?
A
specific navy programme has been the development of marine-grade steel
to build ships and submarines. We now build all our ships with steel
made in India.
The sustained impetus of indigenisation has
resulted in a continuous increase in indigenous content in our ships
from 42 per cent in the 90s to about 90 per cent now. The ship-building
material, equipment and systems on board a warship are classified into
three categories—'float' comprising material, design and systems
required to keep the ship afloat; 'move', which includes systems
required to propel the ship, and 'fight' component consisting of weapons
and sensors. We have achieved self-reliance and indigenisation of 90,
60 and 50 per cent, respectively, in these three categories.
And Make in India?
We
are progressing ‘make’ projects through DPP2016, as well as projects
through DRDO’s Technology Development Fund and Defence Procurement
Manual, 2009. We also have a roadmap for indigenisation called ‘Indian
Naval Indigenisation Plan 2015-30’.
Based on the inputs from
industry and industry bodies like CII and FICCI, we constantly refine
our plans to enable enhanced industry participation. As a long-term
plan, we have taken up a case for establishing a full-fledged
indigenisation establishment called Centre for Indigenisation and Self
Reliance (CISR) in Delhi. This centre will evolve as a professional hub
for steering all indigenisation activities of the Navy.
We accord
high priority to developing indigenous shipbuilding capability.
Currently, 34 ships and submarines are under construction, of which 32
are being built in various Indian shipyards. Further, acceptance of
necessity has been accorded for 53 ships and six submarines. Almost all
of these will be constructed in India.
But you have said no to the LCA Navy variant of the Tejas fighter.
No.
We have always supported the LCA programme since its inception and
provided financial support, specialised manpower and other important
resources. However, there have been some delays in respect of
carrier-compatibility tests of these aircraft. As the LCA cannot
fructify in time to meet the requirements of IAC-1, alternate
acquisition options are being pursued.
LCA Navy Mark 1 has been
designated as a technological demonstrator and, during its developmental
journey, it will achieve and prove niche technologies such as the
arrestor hook system, lightweight strengthened undercarriage and
carrier-compatibility testing. These technologies will be incorporated
in the Mark 2 version, which is currently in design phase. The Mark 2
would thus form the stepping stone for a credible indigenous deck-based
fighter in the coming years.
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